Flip the rifle upside down, so that the trigger guard is facing you. Got a call from a fella with an older Crosman Challenger rifle, and a recent 1701P Silhouette pistol. Maverick Custom Airguns. Affiliate Links are prominently displayed under the heading BUY FROM. Only from Crosman, the world leader in airgun innovation since 1923. 58 616 -1 13 All right reserved. Query: Im not going to tell you which one to get. The original part is obsolete. So, Crosman has adjusted the rifle so it will never go below the sporter-class mandatory 1 lb., 8 oz. 64 612 54 616 Will I do damage to my Crosman Challenger and my Benjamin Discovery by filling them to 2300 psi? Those brands are Feinwerkbau, Anschutz, etc. 0000020108 00000 n In the traditional Crosman style system, you have a sear that goes down into the compression chamber and grabs a slot in the piston. 34 620 0 9 Now some are better than others. 116 502 16 627 -1 2 Leapers makes UTG, but which UTG are you referring to, when comparing it to the Bug Buster? 88 579 21 626 1 626 -pump=2300 Lothar Walther barrel. 0000034390 00000 n 121 0 obj <>stream Airgun Nation is the epicenter for learning, sharing, and discussing everything related to airguns. 86 582 about 1300 psi Remove the trigger from the trigger assembly. 1. AJ, If you want to just go to 12 FPE, it is very simple. Regulator for shot-to-shot consistency, two-stage match grade trigger with adjustable shoe 3000 PSI reservoir for 200+ more shots per fill and higher factory set velocities of 600 FPS Hooded front aperture sight and mico click adjustable diopter rear sight Meets requirements of National Standard three-position air rifle Crosman Challenger Visiting our advertisers and/or clicking Affiliate Links is the best way you can say thank you to HAM, enabling this magazine to be free to read. endstream endobj 92 0 obj <> endobj 93 0 obj <>/Font<>>>/Fields[]>> endobj 94 0 obj <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC/ImageI]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 90/TrimBox[0.0 0.0 612.0 792.0]/Type/Page>> endobj 95 0 obj [/Indexed 116 0 R 245 119 0 R] endobj 96 0 obj [/DeviceN[/Cyan/Magenta/Yellow/Black]116 0 R 117 0 R 118 0 R] endobj 97 0 obj <> endobj 98 0 obj <>stream 82 588 -6 41 I dont have the ballistic printer for my Chrony like I told you about yesterday, so when I record any shot string, I have to write all the numbers down. Yes, I shot our turkey this year with an airgun. Velocity adjustment The way the breech is designed on the new rifle makes it easier to load versus the old T-handle, and you can change sides for a left-handed shooter. The Challenger groups are too small for me to measure at my 54 feet inside range. The pellet loading mechanism prevents misfires. 23 623 At least hamster is what similar devices are called by Field Target shooters. 91 572 Teams could also conduct a fundraiser with the rifle instead, and any additional proceeds raised can be kept to cover immediate expenses. When using the diopter sights ( G397T-011) on the challenger CH2009S, how much will the sights move per click of the knob? The trigger pull does lighten up with use. 35 619 It was actually 545. 10 626 high end of red 69 607 2 22 High-pressure air (2,000 psi) or CO2 (Dual Fuel) Single-shot. FREE - YouTube 0:00 / 5:42 CROSMAN TRIGGER FIX !!! Insert a small, Phillips-head screwdriver through the hole in the trigger guard. 39 617 Hammer spring adjustment knob C. Hammer/ Striker travel adjustment . Adjustable striker spring to fine-tune velocity. But the Challenger 2009 is a target rifle, and its pretty important to have the trigger adjusted well on a target rifle. It gives prominence to the much-leaked new Challenger 2021- thats it in our heading photograph above. I was concerned about filling them to more than 2000 psi but they seem to work best starting at 2300 and 2500 psi. For example, the Trigger, part 1763-042 is identified as Item 6C in the Gen 1 Marauder EVP, Item 29C in the Challenger 2009 EVP and Item 38H in the Gen 2 Marauder EVP. this truley. That will be A TON of guns. In this case, it is the the newer 1764-043 part that is obsolete. This is as close to a precision type rifle as a sporter model could get, and quite possibly the best one currently on the market. Turn the screwdriver counterclockwise to increase the force required to activate the trigger. Its MIA also. Record #: 273653 57 617 123 468 -5 161 Also, the Trigger Casing Side Plate is shown as having different part numbers (1763-041 and 1764-041) between the Gen 1 Marauder and the Gen 2/Challenger. 24 624 1. the drop in fps from the previous shot The Generation 1 Marauder (models BP1763, 2263 and 2563) and the Crosman Challenger 2009 both use the same trigger assembly. 91 31 117 496 I wanted to get better than 100 shots in a string, or a 100-shot string with a variation lower than 34 f.p.s. When adjusting the first stage travel you affect the second-stage travel as well, so adjust those two together. .177 caliber, three-position, competition style pellet rifle, Fully adjustable, precision synthetic stock with swappable sidelever cocking handle, Regulator for shot-to-shot consistency, two-stage match grade trigger with adjustable shoe, 3000 PSI reservoir for 200+ more shots per fill and higher factory set velocities of 600 FPS, Hooded front aperture sight and mico click adjustable diopter rear sight, Meets requirements of National Standard three-position air rifle, LIMITED TIME SPECIAL: FULL AUTO AK1 - ALTERNATE SPECIAL: SEE DEAL. 46 620 It does look cramped under the rear sight and like it would be difficult to work. 22 625 -1 4 Post: While this trigger setup has been around for a long time and is perfectly adequate it is not ideal on a match rifle. The trigger is very nice but seems to way out of adjustment, any advise on the adjustment procedure? %PDF-1.3 % Trigger pull weight for the Crosman Custom Shop regulated Marauder tested by HAM averaged around 2 Lbs 10 Oz out of the box. 108 531 11 630 4 -1 Online Accessisbility | This FREE online magazine is devoted exclusively to airguns and associated products. 91 572 -6 57 Part Three. trailer 2. 0000004453 00000 n 65 608 -4 21 54 616 2 13 Earl, 0000005089 00000 n 96 563 -2 66 <<74850FAFCAE5154591E25CD2324C2908>]/Prev 1025963>> 0000001650 00000 n Hello,This short video goes along with a blog post at www.airgundepot.com. The Challenger PCP kept the adjustable stock and ambidextrous bolt handle from the wildly popular Challenger 2000, but now includes a patented linear bolt. Had the top number been higher, I would have accepted it and had a larger total velocity variation. 93 566 -5 63 79 593 -4 36 average 1-78 Additional information that may be relevant: The following connection details have been logged to help the site administrator resolve this issue: Frankly, I cant wait to see how this new trigger system works out for Crosman. Copyright Hard Air Magazine. Firstly this is absolutely NOT a complaint against Crosman. The shorter the stroke, the less air that escapes and vice-versa. This used the same powerplant and trigger as the 335, but in a smaller simpler stock, a shorter lighter barrel, and a plain spring detent latch. 17 628 You must log in or register to reply here. 33 620 Master Sergeant Woodham and Colonel Mulcahy put together a list of reasons why the Crosman Challenger PCP is their teams air rifle of choice; see below. 18 625 -3 4 0000027333 00000 n I looked at two different videos on YouTube regarding the "Crosman Trigger Fix": the first involved replacing the small trigger adjustment screw behind the trigger with a longer screw, and the second shows how to remove the "Lawyer spring" behind the trigger shoe and replace it with a small RC bearing. 72 605 The scale on the butt plate helps maintain consistent adjustments. HooHOtM}&gFUS4'WH$TSmgg}f~|CnEnV)aFh`I i9@)zd>DH)Ab(71+7\GdF;$I They do make for a very short and crisp trigger pull, but they also leave your gun in a very unsafe state prone to accidental discharge. A happy and abundant Thanksgiving to all!!! Terms of Use, The famous, rather the infamous Crosman Trigger, Benjamin Discovery Part 1 The Game Changer. Enjoy round after round of the latest news, campaigns, videos and first release gear-drops from Crosman. Beeman has the RS2 and RS3 triggers, and Hatsan has their Quattro trigger. The manual should state between 1 to 4 lbs. I mentioned that there are many manufacturers that use this design. 77 594 -3 35 separated the high from the low, so I decided to keep on shooting until the velocity dropped below that of the slowest shot528. Strictly speaking, that should be Trigger Assemblies, of course. 58 616 Essentially you have a lever, i.e. Hard Air Magazine is the best Internet destination for everything airgun related. A better standard rear sight. 111 521 -3 108 I specifically use my air guns as tools to take out pests on our farm. Because theres so much engagement between the sear and the strut its going to be next to impossible to see a misfire from this type of trigger design. Remember, it does all of this on a fill of just 2,000 psi. 69 607 114 509 -6 120 21 626 -1 3 It is shooting 8.4 AA's at 792 FPS for 11.70 FPE. This is all I have done to my challenger and it gets 49 point of aim shots before it drops off the regulator. Knob=0.164, wrench=2 turns in from stop 109 526 If you want to help keep these video's coming, you can do so by making a PayPal Donation on my Web Site http://www.airgunsmn.com , or by watching or clicking. The trigger pull is lighter than the 953 but a little heavier than the 753. JSB RS 7.33 gr pellets By continuing to browse the site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. 13 629 Your email address: They are the location of the trigger blade, first-stage travel, second-stage travel and the weight of the trigger-pull. Air rifles are an economical way to target practice or hunt, and can be very accurate at distances up to 100 yards. For comparison, here is the cover of the 2019 Velocity Outdoor product catalog. The only adjustment is out, which takes the length, i.e. Additionally, the completely re-designed feature set includes a two-stage, match grade, adjustable trigger and a Lothar Walther barrel for unsurpassed accuracy. It is shooting 8.4 AA's at 792 FPS for 11.70 FPE. Best grouping is around 1500 PSI. 4. Thanks for the explanations and clarification, Phillip! Copyright Hard Air Magazine. Probably. 83 591 3 38 FREE Chris mccall 198 subscribers 141K views 10 years ago BETTER THAN CHARLIE DA TUNAS GRT-III !!! Your Disco should be OK because theyre able to go to 3000 but if I had a Challenger(Nice gun!) CW:*9)$KTpi\F\D :\N][`#2\v-1B-*>T{$-::CVPP8--I@U[ZZ DWjLbiiHi.B)2@Qe 4.M0/E|'2`\+$|,x .S F1edg`J#4B1|bTdaP` BN}10h 98 556 This looks to be a major upgrade to the previous Challenger 2009 model. I wanted to increase the number of usable shots by decreasing the average velocity. 60 610 -5 19 Well, as you can imagine, Ive been asked this question a bunch of times over the years. Hans & Ray ( aka Team Crosman ) used them for a couple of years in the "12fpe" class. The psi readings are from the Benjamin pump gauge which seems to be correct. 126 454 -2 175 87 581 127 446 -8 183 bottom of green. Theres only one way to know. Also new is the breech with a sidelever cocking system that is described as being swappable. I am not sure which way to go but leaning more towards upgrading my disco if the Challenger barrel is a simple drop in with a Marauder trigger. More good news is that the Lothar Walther barrel is retained, together with confirmation that the Challenger 2021 meets the requirements for national 3P rifle competition. 0000011373 00000 n The pistol grip is prominent and will require a very different grip from the outgoing model. No. In that test I had gotten 72 total shots within 18 f.p.s. The Generation 1 Marauder (models BP1763, 2263 and 2563) and the Crosman Challenger 2009 both use the same trigger assembly. All other designated trademarks, copyrights, and brands are the property of their respective owners. . 67 609 How can I adjust the trigger down to one pound like it states in the manual for the 2300T/2300S? Enter your email to receive our newsletters and latest news! variation to 116 shots with a 29 f.p.s. 55 615 -1 14 PyramydAir.com uses cookies to ensure you get the best experience on our website. Make that more than 200, according to the catalog. 102 545 -5 84 Check the trigger guard for a small hole near the front. 96 563 The extra numbers in the above post are Its important to understand just how critical a trigger is going to impact your ability to easily achieve repeatable accuracy. 68 605 Shot FPS Can anyone tell me what was supposed to mount underneath the forestock on my FWB 150?? AKA Anschutz 335 Did a quick clean up and function check and it seem to be fine. Hopefully well have one in for testing as soon as they become available. Shot FPS If there is a hole, your Crosman rifle contains an adjustable trigger. 3. 70 608 READ THIS BEFORE CONTINUING! The Gentlemen's 2240 - built on the Crosman 2240 CO2 platform. 118 494 -2 135 41 617 0 12 110 524 31 623 0 6 1-30=10 psi/shot variation. 37 614 The teams air rifle of choice was the Crosman Challenger PCP. In fact they have exactly the same dimensions and are interchangeable. You've recommended the Bug Buster scope in the past and I was wondering if there's any difference between the UTG and the Leapers Bug Buster? So what is the adjustment screw for? I accomplished both my goals on the first try. In a true 2 stage trigger, the first part of the pull, usually very light, would begin the rotation leaving the 2nd stage right on the end of breaking that connection and firing the rifle. Thats not always the case unfortunately. Adjustable ergonomics to fit a variety of youths to adults. 113 515 0 114 If youre reading this report the way I intended, you are now seeing that this process is practically infinite. If you are looking for better control over your shooting. The way they make parts diagrams available to owners of their products is outstanding and a model for the industry! Phone: (877) 375-4570 Privacy Policy | 89 579 0 50 Air Gun Arena: Crosman Nitro Trigger Adjustment. Can you see that I am not controlling anything at this point? Hard Air Magazine is the best Internet destination for everything airgun related. 5 & 20 East Bloomeld, NY 14443 800-7-AIRGUN (724-7486) . 84 586 94 565 All of the first stage is actually just tension against a spring in the trigger blade. The screw-on air cap. Check your email to get blasting! For example, a long 2nd stage can be OK, especially in a field gun, so long that the parts are clean and finished properly. Do I have a chrony? Bolt-action (ambidextrous & straight pull) 2-stage, match-grade, adjustable trigger. B.B., always glad to hear about the Challenger and the Challenger/Edge match-up will be one worthy of the holidays. Mind-numbing! Airgun and Airbow Service, Repair and Parts. deviation. To learn more, please vis. Fully adjustable Marauder trigger group is very good and you can adjust in a crisp, light second stage let off with a . STOP! 61 609 100+ shots per fill is a pumper's dream. Because this airgun has an adjustable match grade trigger, it could re WARNING: when dropped or jarred, with or without the safety engaged. I had hoped for over 85 shots when this test began, but the rifle was still pumping them out at shot 100. These allow us to earn a commission when you click on an affiliate link. is not the average of this string. Host / ISP: 104.248.11.200 Right now, we are offering the Crosman Challenger PCP as a fundraising product! 30 623 1 6 gun=2000 65 608 60 610 You may adjust either one or both adjustments and get an initial velocity change, but how do you know if that change is what you really want? 37 614 -3 15 m13xx Pro-Pumper - built on the Crosman 1377 and 1322 platform. You can find out more about how we use them in the privacy policy. They are promoted as two stage adjustable triggers which will really depends on how you define what is a trigger stage? Let me try to explain. 35 619 -1 10 The Blogger support team, in contrast, hasnt done anything to solve the issue, which affects not just this blog but also many others around the world. This is also the case for the Safety, which has part numbers 1763-043 and 1764-043. Phillip explains that there was a material change made in about 2014 that accounts for the different part numbers. Consult current 3P regs for allowed costs of sporter rifles. 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My Benjamin Discovery by filling them to more than 2000 psi but they to. Respective owners host / ISP: 104.248.11.200 Right now, we are offering the Crosman Challenger PCP is a stage. To 3000 but If I had gotten 72 total shots within 18 f.p.s 375-4570 Privacy Policy psi... Diagrams available to owners of their products is outstanding and a Lothar Walther barrel 113 515 0 114 If reading! Heading photograph above rifle chamber or magazine affiliate Links are prominently displayed under the heading from! Air guns as tools to take out pests on our website Remove any pellets from the trigger guard that! Being swappable, match-grade, adjustable trigger make parts diagrams available to owners of their respective owners call from fella... Trigger Assemblies, of course by filling them to 2300 psi GRT-III!!!!!!!!. The newer 1764-043 part that is obsolete 175 87 581 127 446 -8 bottom... The Benjamin pump gauge which seems to way out of adjustment, advise... 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