[55], After Sazed's Ascension and Spook's rise to political power, Kelsier began to speak with Spook about finding a way to bring himself back to the Physical Realm. Kelsier is one of the titular characters of the first Mistborn novel, leading a crew of ruffians and thieves on a mission to assassinate The Lord Ruler, and end his tyranny over the lands of Scadrial. As a Cognitive Shadow tied to Scadrial, it is difficult for him to travel to other planets via Shadesmar. And for all of you who feel the theory doesnt have a point, you can just stop posting. TenSoon wears Kelsier's bones to glean information about Vin from Luthadel guards. And we know Ruin was able to manipulatepeople, particularly unstable people like Vin's mother and Gemmel, so is it possible that the rebels who stabbed the Lord Ruler were influenced by Ruin to create a Hemalurgic Spike? Kelsier had traveled there several years after the Catacendre, inhabiting a physical body that was spiked in the right eye, and found the Southern Scadrians slowly dying of an unexplained coldness. Then he killed the noble Lord Renoux and let OreSeur impersonate him. Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the. He is confronted by a Steel Inquisitor, which he eventually manages to defeat by beheading him with the Inquisitor's own obsidian axe. In the meantime, keep an eye out for a non-spoiler review of The Lost Metal coming up next week. Though, in my opinion, I dunno if Ruin would try to forcethe Lord Ruler to kill Kelsier. [43] He feels Ruin's presence during his time in the Well. After Kelsier died, when Vin fought the Lord Ruler, Marsh killed the other Steel Inquisitors in Luthadel and saved Vin's life. [30] He is quite proficient at pewter dragging and has enough practice to maintain it for hours and still maintain a fair amount of clarity afterwards. And the Lord Ruler still had a spike in his chest when he stabbed Kelsier. Killing Kelsier in a specific way wouldnt have changed or accomplished anything that he would care about. His other role involved using his reputation as the Survivor of Hathsin to inspire the newly-trained skaa soldiers. They discover that theres a murderer on the looseand, even worse, Harmony contacts Wax directly to inform him that this murderer is a rogue kandra named Bleeder/Paalm whos gone mad. When that happened, after everything he and Vin went through, I was in a state of sadness for days. The roast is strong with this post. On Kelsier's way back to Luthadel, he made a stop at the farm of Lord Themos Tresting to talk with the farm skaa. Once their army was trained and the houses grew unstable enough, they would send a part of their army to attack the Pits of Hathsin, forcing the garrison of Luthadel to go and defend the Pits. Kelsier also convinces Breeze, Ham and Clubs to join the conspiracy by offering a share of the Lord Ruler's stash of valuable atium as loot. If you dont like or understand it, again, move along. While difficult, it is possible to obtain atium and lerasium from ettmetal, but not through mechanical means. Now that weve got that basic synopsis out of the way, lets start off with a handy character primer. Kelsier offered to let her to join his crew. Having escaped death only by becoming a Mistborn . What are you saying? Will Wax and Wayne wield weapons with wild wantonness? Then, in Shadows of Self, Paalm was using a spike supplied by Trell to gain Allomantic and Feruchemical abilities, as well as to remain invisible to Harmony. Taken in congruence with the events of Secret History, this man appears to be Kelsier. Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the. MeLaan: A kandra who has been around from about the time of the Catacendre. Honestly, I am kinda confused as to what this theory is trying to say, and how it is relevant to current and future cosmere. Kelsier sought and eventually found the Eleventh metal as he believed it would help him to defeat the Lord Ruler. (Remember how I mentioned all those spoilers? Before leaving them, he created the Bands of Mourning, a collection of unsealed metalminds forged together and containing all kinds of attributes in extremely large quantities. In this novella covering the events of the first Mistborn trilogy, Kelsier is trapped in the Well of Ascension following his death. He lacks finesse in the external mental abilities of zinc and brass as he tends to create large changes in emotional states as opposed to the more subtle Soothing abilities of Breeze, although he can affect a relatively large mass of people. And we know Ruin was able to manipulatepeople, particularly unstable people like Vin's mother and Gemmel, soit possible that the rebels who stabbed the Lord Ruler were influenced by Ruin to create a Hemalurgic Spike. Kelsier would understand, but still disapprove of. Ughcreepy. The issue with a spear is if the metal head is all the way out of the body, and only the wooden haft is actually touching. Leras is fascinated by Kelsier due to him being the first to punch him after death, and being the first to attempt to recruit him to their schemes. Might as well use that talent for the cause of good eh? [67] Harmony also made vague allusions to the Southern Scadrians that Kelsier once ruled as the Sovereign. [51], From the Well of Ascension, of course. The Lord Ruler openly thanked Mare for helping his forces find the thieves, and from this, Kelsier was led to the false conclusion that Mare had purposefully betrayed him. A Steel Inquisitor had been present, discovering Vin's Allomancy. And vapor in the air, confined to night. Kelsier was the primary mentor of Vin and crewleader to the gang who was credited for overthrowing the Final Empire. Hmmm, he was flat on the ground from the Lord Rulers hit when he was stabbed. Vin didn't trust him but agreed in order to learn how to use Allomancy. [34] This spike pins his soul to his bones. Its relevant to the past in the cosmere. Even the church of the survivor would be virtually the same. Gemmel is Kelsier's mentor in the allomantic arts, meeting each other after Kelsier escaped from his captivity in Hathsin. Here they are. [62], You can say what you wish, but you don't own me. Harmony(fka Sazed): Harmony holds the shards of Ruin AND Preservation, and as such is (one of the) god(s) of Scadrial. , He and Hoid have a very antagonistic relationship one with one another, stretching back to when they first met and got into a violent fight. He wasn't Kelsier, and he didn't need to be but it was hard to believe so when people kept reminding him of how different Kelsier would have . Ati manipulated Kelsier for many years, grooming him in order to bring about his release. The Coppermind has spoilers for all of Brandon's published works, now including The Lost Metal and Tress of the Emerald Sea (Secret Project 1). Kelsier is a half-skaa Mistborn from Scadrial. Other 3D models from the same designer Janseloth All For one of them, Kelsier's crew planned to steal the Lord Ruler's atium cache, which they believed lay hidden in Kredik Shaw. [15] He shows little empathy or fear, as well as a high ego,[14] and is frequently quick to resort to using violenceoften lethal violenceto solve problems,[16][17][18][19] even when doing so clearly won't actually help the people he is supposedly trying to help. If he were a Radiant, there are three Orders Kelsier might belong to: Edgedancer, Dustbringer, or Willshaper. If you enjoy queer protagonists, snarky humor, and dont mind some salty language, check out book 1. Kelsier, famously known as the Survivor of Hathsin, is a powerful Mistborn and one of the main characters in Mistborn: The Final Empire . Its relevant to the past in the cosmere. HE CANT BE HEMALURGICALLY SPIKED IF THE METAL ISNT TOUCHING HIS INSIDES. As of Mistborn Era 2, he may be a feruchemist and he has not gained access to allomancy since his death. [56] He does not yet know the secret to overcome this limitation. Cause I see what could be considered3 different theories in this one post. Kelsier's martyrdom and seeming resurrection spawns a new religion, the Church of the Survivor, which venerates Kelsier's teachings. Uncanonically, Brandon imagines Kelsier as using a Seon in a trench coat as his 'avatar'. A lawman through and through, Wax is now semi-retired as High Lord of his House. While he is incapable of leaving Scadrial in person, he uses an "avatar" to visit the Ghostbloods on Roshar. Kelsier went on to save Elend's life from an inquisitor. 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Clearly I am not the only one questioning the relevancy, (Thanks for the support btw @KalaDANG) and it is not to point out that I don't "like" the theory, I find it unlikely, and there are 2 main reasons: A. I don't understand what the theory is trying to say (Which might make my thoughts on the theory irrelevant). That said though, Im also kind of confused at what Ruin would be trying to accomplish even if TLR HAD been spiked. All I want is for you to clarify your theory. Although Vin assumes him to have only trained partially using each metal, Kelsier is extremely skilled at Steelpushing and Ironpulling, a skill he demonstrates when he defeats and kills the Steel Inquisitor Bendal. First off, I don't mean to come off as hostile, but I am genuinely confused as to what this theory is saying. He finds Vin and Ham near the steps of Keep Venture and also learned that Dockson had died in the Battle of Luthadel. If it did, the Koloss who died wouldn't have reverted to Humans when Kelsier saw them die. Wayne once had a thing for her, but gave up on it after realizing that she has a girlfriend. Kelsier held Preservation for a short time but was bad at using it because he was a Cognitive Shadow at the time and did not match well with Preservation's Intent. I am hope. Despite what he has told the Ghostbloods, Kelsier does not have a real avatar. Steris Harms Ladrian: Waxs wife and Marasis half-sister. Even if he had said something rude, its a theory. Those who had been close to Kelsier, particularly his thieving crew, are notably discomforted by his religious image. . In The Final Empire it can be argued that Vin represents the reader of the book as she is constantly in awe and has a great amount of respect for Kelsier.The reader is able to learn about the world, the magic and the other characters through the eyes of Vin, and because of this, we admire Kelsier, holding him up to almost a supernatural standard. Kelsier let Vin jump over the city walls as an exercise for steel and iron and was surprised how voluntarily she did it, remembering his own training. And the Lord Ruler still had a spike in his chest when he stabbed Kelsier. Sure, it makes it interesting and thought provoking, but I never said it wasn't. [6], Dockson told Kelsier about a young Allomancer girl Marsh had discovered whom he suspected was a Mistborn. Even with the Eleventh Metal, Kelsier proved no match for the emperor and was quickly killed by a spear through the heart. if TLR was spiked? His cheerful exterior hides his doubts over Mare's loyalty, whom he continues to believe to have betrayed him until Vin demonstrates that it is possible to pierce copperclouds. No, Kelsier was not fond of Marsh. At the end of TheBands of Mourning, we learn that aside from the Survivorists, there is also a whole civilization of people far to the south of Elendel that worships Kelsier, calling him the Sovereign. When Bleeder killed Father Bin by nailing him to a wall, it is described as a parody of the Survivor's Statemark,[60] implying that the Statemark depicts the way Kelsier died, impaled by a spear. Lyndsey is a renaissance faire performer and magic wand-maker. Ive done my best to include things that I think youll need to know going into the next book. Greetings, Cosmere chickens and Allomancers! Kelsier is a half-skaa Mistborn from Scadrial. [21] There is a darkness to him that other heroes, such as Kaladin, would fight but that Kelsier instead embraces and is so ruthless that, in a fight with other notable people from the cosmere, he would be the most likely to win;[27][28] even Hoid considers him incredibly dangerous. The Misborn series comes recommended by Eurogamer friend Johnny Chiodini, who describes Fortnite's latest addition thus: "Kelsier is a thief, but he's also a mistborn - a person who can consume. Thus he decides to go along with him out of curiosity. Hiding you. He is presumably the founding member of the Ghostbloods, a secret society investigating the Cosmere and ways to travel between all the different worlds. He infiltrated the Steel Inquisitors, and is one of the few remaining characters from the original trilogy who is alive. He also appears to be the only remaining Mistborn thanks to Hemalurgy. Kelsier considers guns to be inelegant weapons. Kelsier also is quite adept at pewter-dragging, as he is capable of running long distances and experiencing only minor fatigue afterwards. TenSoon learned the location of his bones from OreSeur, and used them to convince the people of Luthadel to hide in the caverns after King Penrod was corrupted by Ruin.[41]. Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm and met Preservation. It was Kelsier's "death" that truly connected me to the Cosmere universe. "Now, let's go jump that wall."Based on Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn novels, where Kelsier first teaches Vin about Allomancy.The boards are also available on. Please clarify. Waxillium (Wax) Ladrian(fka Asinthew): One of our two primary characters. The man tells a villager to "survive.". The book was first published in July 17th 2006 and the latest edition of the book was published in July 31st 2007 which eliminates all the known issues and printing errors. People have theorized similar about Hoid. His late wife Mare collected pre-Ascension memorabilia, and he keeps one piece, a drawing of a flower,[7] to inspire his crew. [42] For a period, he did not fully respect or believe Leras's divinity, but over time he came to respect him more. With his newly awakened Mistborn powers, Kelsier killed the guards and escaped the Pits of Hathsin, murdering all the nobility and skaa who had chosen to become guards he encountered in his vicinity. Kelsier was the primary mentor of Vin and crewleader to the gang who was credited for overthrowing the Final Empire. He was the leader. It's not a sad death. Some of the Survivor's less pleasant traits include his ruthlessness and prejudice. He was dead anyways. During the first year of COVID lockdowns, the creative collective SoulsForge developed Mistborn: Ashes Project:A collaborative proposal for a prospective AAA. He forced the rest of the crew to leave, only leaving Vin. So we really cant know if he was being feeling the effects of Ruins influence, since we cant even know if he was hemalurgically spiked. You just posted an irrelevant comment that was honestly a little hostile. Brandon definitely knew Kelsier wasn't gone from the beginning. You cant discuss a theory with only the people who agree with it. The Final Empire: Mistborn Book 1. Here is where Vin comes in. [32], Born to a noble father and skaa mother,[35] his mother kept both Kelsier and Marsh alive by pretending that she was noble to their father so that their children would be considered merely illegitimate noblemen instead of half-breeds; however, their father eventually found out. Before the trilogy began, Kelsier was the greatest Crewleader any Skaa had known. This one is gonna be a RAFO for what his true plan is and if there is influence somewhere. But strangely, he still loved him. Now there is also the question of why your comment was warranted. Marsh, who was also in love with Mare, came to resent Kelsier for winning her love and for constantly outshadowing him with his frivolty. After Camon and Vin left, Kelsier realized that the ministry had already discovered that Camon was a thief and only played along to find the crew's hideout. All Im saying is that whether or not TLR could have been hemalurgically spiked depends entirely upon whether or not the rebels stabbing him with spears only stabbed hard enough to just barely get the metal heads in, which would technically allow for hemalurgical side effects, or if the rebels stabbed him with enough force that the spear head went ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIM and stuck out the other side of his body, leaving him with only the wooden haft still inside of him and the metal heads not touching his insides. Kelsier is also highly impulsive, on one occasion attempting to attack an entire army single-handed. Kelsier has been confirmed by WoB not to have a spike, so although he was being influenced by Ruin's plans, Ruin was not controlling his motions and therefore he did not have the intent necessary to perform hemalurgy. Kelsier is a former thief from the capital city of Luthadel. He connects us to his characters. This was changed by Vin who fell in love with Elend Venture. [75] Realizing Vin didn't trust him, he told her that in his crew they trust each other. HE CANT BE HEMALURGICALLY SPIKED IF THE METAL ISNT TOUCHING HIS INSIDES. Kelsier then made his living as a thief, becoming famous throughout Luthadel. In addition, Kelsier is a competent warrior, defeating multiple Hazekillers and Mistings while outnumbered and disarmed. One of Kelsier's defining characteristics is his infallible optimism, even in the face of disastrous situations. He is the central figure of the religion known as the Church of the Survivor. When Kelsier was in the Cognitive Realm after his release, he often would show up to him in order to mock him and his inability to do anything. The mentor figure always ends up getting killed. Priests in this religion wear robes with stitching up the arms to emulate Kelsier's scars from the Pits of Hathsin. Thankfully, a certain someone found them (see Kelsiers section below) and helped them to survive. On the battlefield, Kaladin would be more likely to win. For more details, see our spoiler policy. Edwarn Ladrian (aka Mister Suit): Waxs uncle, and a member of the Set. All Im saying is that theres no way to definitively know whether or not the metal heads were still inside him. [42] Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the Well allowed him to become a Cognitive Shadow and resist the pull of the Beyond. I represent that one thing you've never been able to kill, no matter how hard you try. 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