you have a diamond in the rough. I have a friend who had a 3.0L from a 300E in his 190 and it was pretty quick too. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Remove with transmission attached. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. Inside the car you find a custom six-point roll cage, Takata 6-point harness, Sparco Evo 2 seats. I generaly like motors bigger than4cylunless they are turbo. CIS 4 prong sensor is now located at the water pump so this needs to be lengthened. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. as i have said, the chassis for 2.6 vs all other models are different. Each wheel is turned by upgraded axles with modified knuckles and BMW E34 hubs. Will always be cheaper to get what you want from the get go, If a wagon is your thing, maybe find a junkyard S124 and V8 124 with a crappy body and just frankenstein them? Behind the engine sits a five-speed manual transmission taken from a BMW E46 3.0d and connected via a bell housing from a Mercedes 2.7 CDI. Ok got it all nearly wrapped up this past week, around 60 hours or so to turn key M104. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. Probably $5k for the engine, $1.5k for the tranny, and the cost of the computer plus labor, figer 9-12. As a side note, the block has over 150k on it and the bores are still within a thou of origional specs, there are no ring marks at the top and you can still see the factory cross-hatch. I wish I could have a M3 or Audi TT, but dont have the cash. the mercedes is a DD that gets 30mpg that looks good. Find a decent but cheap 400e or a very cheap 500e and bite the bullet on cost upfront and invest the time to make it 'good'. Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. Bolt starter to the engine before lowering. Unfortunatly, I have done tons of research, and it all depends on how much you want to spend. I would reduce the length by half a centimeter. My M104 is a 99 hfm. Alright, putting a 94 M104 into a 89 2.6 5spd W201 (Green/Black). Mercedes w203 Engine Swap "The Plan" (Pt.1) M271|M104|M111 Ricer Benz 4.27K subscribers Join Subscribe 143 Share 10K views 2 years ago M111 turbo Video link :. Most E420's do not have ASR nor heated seats. the volvo is a non turbo auto which will become a t-5R 5 spd in the future. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. haha, no worries! Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. The ol' girl has probably done around 8-10k trouble free miles since the swap, until the air pump bearing decided to retire and smoked the belt. ya dont destroy a 5-speed sportline. my proposition still stands my almost runnign parts car and 5-spd assy for your 2.6 5-spd. We had a 5.0L from an 80's mercedes, 240bhp, but decided to go with the higher revving motor. Then swap in a 2.65-2.82 differential (in place of the 2.24 granny gears) and, optionally, a 5.0L engine. MB 300E 24v Turbo MS3X. Yeah, I've got a thread going over there too. '85 Euro 190E 2.3-16, '84 Euro 500SE, '90 300SEL, '51 Euro 170S, '15 G63 AMG. I would like to put an engine in mine that puts out at leat 300maybe 255+. cheap way ,and use procharger instead. JavaScript is disabled. It replaced the M103 and was replaced by the M112 V6 starting in 1997. The 20% difference consists of 10% engine/gearing, 8% bodywork and interior, and 2% everything else. When you find one, buy it. You will need to reclock the alternator by removing the screws holding the 2 halves of the alternator together and turning them to match how a 190E alternator looks. Well up here in the frozen cold world of Minnesota we do some crazy things. What did you need to do to convert the coils from the three coils and three wires to six individual invention coils on the m104 engine? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This part requires custom work from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses. In addition, the engine carrier and mounting setup I believe is different between the V-8 and inline-six models? I want mercedes V8 power, or at least AMG 6 cylinder. It is the newer 24valve m104 engine. Let's see .. Palli, you're in the correct forum. CLK, W209. Which is still ~1/3 of what the same condition E500E would be. It's 80%. AMG would be nice and or a V8. Doing the upgrades on an E420 is plug+play, and easily done if you have the ability to handle an engine swap. Connect oil pressure and oil level sensor wires, Bolt wire bracket to rear of intake manifold (10mm), Connect alternator wires coming from right fender, Connect rear crankshaft position sensor wire, Connect front crankshaft position sensor under X11 diagnostic port, Connect heater return hose at back of engine, Use W124 water reservoir overflow hose and 190E valve from thermostat cover, Use T connector at front vacuum nipple to connect to EZL and EGR/Smog pump solenoid, Connect black striped white vacuum line from throttle body to check valve at fender behind headlight, Connect 3 vacuum line at rear of intake manifold. But any ways, what engines can I put in my 190? I have a 1990 190E 2.6the straight six just isnt cutting it performance wise. Wow, Thanks for all the info. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. I did all the swaps and all the work myself. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU . M104.981ish 3.0L Engine Block Moar. Install without transmission. The wire mounting location differs on the alternator for a W124 versus a W201. Another option is to swap in the CIS version of the M104 engine found on the earliest M104 powered cars (1990-1992 300CE and 1990-1993 300SL). A number of years back I had converted a manual 1987 W124 200 (4 cylinder carb engine) to a 3.6 HFM engine and auto trans. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU and it made 800 horsepower and 930 Nm of torque to the wheels. The car has been completely rebuilt with upgraded suspension, brakes and drift-spec steering. Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? Heater core and radiator connections are both identical, M103 vacuum hard line fits well, 124.104 PS Pump has larger fittings 201.103 is direct replacement just swap over rear mount bracket, late model 124 AC discharge lines up with condenser..suction just needs one crimp to combine 103 upper and 104 lower half R R0BB09 E500E Newbie Aug 10, 2019 If it was a black 2.6, with gray cladding, that's John's car from the over on the rev. Yup, that's John's car. easist way for me would be add two injector before throttle body, let a a along ecu to fire them with rpm sensing. Could any of yall point me in the right direction to d this? I have a 3.8 V8 from a 1981 380SL in my 190. i'd ditch the 18's and go with 16 or 17's you really don't want to tear apart a good working 2.6 5-spd because they are getting harder and harder to come by. Yes, I'm putting the 1995 E420 Special Edition on the block for a number of reasons which I'm not going to expound on here about. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. The M104 A/C manifold's low pressure hose cannot reach the connection point at the edge of the fender on a 190E chassis. BMW broke the hearts of many fans worldwide with the debut of the E90 generation of their M3 sports car. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I remember seeing an AMG 190E on ebay, fuly decked out by AMG and Renntech a while back. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Affectionately called the LS-190, the swap looked to be carefully planned out, and rather well executed. And still, the purists cried, "Heresy!" w16302ML500 w21097E50Amg w20299C230K w12494420e /==>w12495320e-199u (needs elec TLC) /GreatWhiteNorth Kanada, I dont think w210 would be the right forum for this but i changed it, 89 190E2.6- 5-speed Manual - 200K miles, 95 E320 Sportsline-sold, 2001 E320 4matic Wagon-sold. and the other thing you have a mercedes not a honda or a toyota if you want performance and the tuning spirit get a honda.. these cars arent really geared toward performance and to modify them for it will cost you some change. Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. I am currently working on a my W201 2.6 project car. If the fuel pump runs does this indicate power? Take whatever "positive vibes" translates to monetarily and treat your 036 with a barrage of restorative upgrades and needed and not-so-needed service and maintenance and probably still have some money to buy $5k euro headlights. '84 Euro 500SE, '85 Euro 2.3-16, '51 Euro 170S, '97 Jeep Wrangler Sport, '15 G63 AMG. Any slk egne fit in there? The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Set starter in place if it isn't already and reconnect wires. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. : 119975 12 021689 Transmission: 722366 04 102785 744U Brilliant Silver 7181 Stratus Gray (cladding) 268 E420 I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. ugh! Lower engine from hoist into engine bay and align motor mounts. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. How to get your M119 5.0L V8 running optimally? Simply put, the M103 and M104 share the same block, primary differences are the head and the injection setup. all that accumulated grease and oil. It was built for the track and drifting. The M104.98x introduces a new vacuum nipple. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. 1996 Volvo 855GLT, 1993 MB 190e 2.3 8v, 1998 Subaru Outback SUS, 1991 BMW 525, 1998 MB C230. Use it however you wish or block it off. Way back in 2007, we were presented with an interesting engine swap. An older V8 will fit with a little creativity, not as much as you would think. these are quite uncommon. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Swapped! It's like obsidian gray in color so it can't be, then again it's been repainted, but I think the same color. as for fitting in the 104 engine, it is anyone's guess whether the manifold and down pipes will clear the steering box. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v Read More Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six 1994 Mercedes Wagon with a Turbo LSx - Part 14 July 9, 2018 W124 MBWorld member Gen3Benz had the ambitious plan of stuffing an LS1 V8 motor under the hood of his W201. History, Power & Specs of the Engine M104 2.8 L M104.900 3.0 L M104.98x 217 to 228 hp@ 6400 rpm 265Nm (195lbft@ 4600) (with cat) Hello, I'm new to the Mercedes world, just picked up a 1993 190e 2.6 sportline 5spd manual for my daily driver. '87--190E 2.3-16v(being rebuilt), '99--C230 Kompressor. The easiest swap out, would be a 90-93 300SL Engine Swap. go the suggested 400E + LH M119 route, which gives you an 80-90% chance of success. The steering box is in fact in a different location on the M102 cars versus the 6-cylinder M103 cars. Navigation Menu . What engine can fit into this car? Well, I am right with you. weren't there like 100 sportline LEs built for the USA and 100 for europe? The secondary firewall and motor mounts are also positioned differently to accommodate the extra length of the M103. M104.98x Motor Swap in a 190E One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Head gasket and oil leaks are common to both engines. Said it made around 345hp(?) The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. torque using the old KE Elctro-Mechanical Fuel Injection like that used on the older m103 Inline 6. Navigation Menu. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. Only 100 cars like mine ever imported into the US, really, I don't know, can anyone cite accurate numbers? 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM Is removal and shorter belt fitting possible? Use your original engine mounts and exhaust downpipe, these are a direct fit to the m104. A solution to fix this is to use the M104 A/C manifold (104 230 04 56 is NLA, aftermarket solution: Four Seasons 55586) and have both hoses custom made. Therefore, nothing but good old venerable striahgt 6s. used 2jz is about 3500-10000 $. Hi Adriano. I have a mint condition M104 I6 3.2L and the transmission is mint, so is the diff. It's lacking power to spin the big heavy 18" AMG monoblock wheels it came with, so I'm looking into an engine swap. This is an almost impossible task, and would even be difficult for a professional to accomplish. If you want a really nice one, I'm guessing it will likely end up in the $4-$8k ballpark. Im no where near having all of the funds to do thisproject withwere probably looking at like a year or two down the road. Swapping from one of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was a great idea. Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). The upper hose needs to be simply matched to the original length of the 190E part and the lower hose comes out to around 20cm (I would try 19.5cm for an easier fit. W203 Mercedes M104 3.2 TURBO Build In 10 Minutes (The German 2JZ) Ricer Benz 3.94K subscribers Join Subscribe 1.4K Share 85,007 views Apr 16, 2022 2004 Mercedes W203 with a M104 3.2l swap &. Well my 93 had a 2.85:1 rear diff, and rear sub frame mods r highly recommendedSuspension, well Eibachs is what I useIf you want roll bars, Delsing 500E rollbars, with the ends cut a little to fit the 190E. JavaScript is disabled. After 6 years of reading this forum, I was under the impression that a 5L LH M119 will install neatly into a 400E, 100% of the time for 10 times less than what JC220 wants to charge some incognizant stranger? One thing i forgot to mention, the sway bar and the skid plate needs to be modified but thats easy peasy. If I was ever going swap in a V8 into a W124 sedan it would be a Chevy LS motor. Unrelated but tied to the M104 is the crumbling wiring issue, and evaporator failure. The W124 has the connection point closer underneath the brake booster line and is about 5 inches shorter. I would also like to do suspension up grades and a EVOII kit in the future. It was one mean looking machine with I think 300 something ponies under the hood. Using the original 190E A/C manifold hoses not work entirely either. One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. And isn't the M119.960 slightly wider and taller, making the fit into a 124 even harder? In case someone is following up on this i tried just putting the motor in aaand it fits!!! For those unfamiliar with the project, it's powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a . The injection system is still CIS and the ignition system is still EZL, but additional work is required to make the swap complete. This BMW E46 has spent the past two years being built by VRP Fab in Lublin, Poland for drifting. Mine isn't an LE though, just a 190e sportline. So my question is, can I just find a used M104 3.2 liter engine and ECU, and toss it into my car? What can be done and how much will it cost? Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? Your original gearbox will work fine with the new engine, but bear in mind it's much easier to remove the gearbox and engine together than separate them in the car. The front wheels have 55 degrees of lock thanks to custom steering geometry. Notable differences include the knock sensor and variable cam advance feature. Power is sent through a 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory Mercedes subframe. Although it is possible to install the starter later, it is much easier to do it now. the m103 to m104 is a pretty common swap but the power gain is about 60hp or so. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. I've always wondered why people make the wagons accept V8s when it might be easier to make the sedan a wagon (shooting brake, if you will). My typo error corrected (w210 ===>w201). VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Not to mention, but on the 500E, the computers are located under the hood, and the battery is located in the trunk. The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Makes a fantastic daily driver. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. Power will be greater with an LS swap. All bolt-in, no welding required. In order to use the M104 CIS intake box, the supply line must be swapped. If you really want to get speed though, deff change the brakes. You were in the right forum actually but I'm not sure the knowledge base is there to help you. He is an electrical wizard. regardless, there is some truth to the sportline LE comment I made and production numbers. Remember that according to any 400E/E420 owner, it is 90% of a 500E !! The team also includes mechanics Christopher Reinholdsson, Robin Carlsson, Stefan Engstrm, Jesper Jumisko, Edvin Olsson, Joel Haglund, and media/spotter Sebastian Simonsson. Originally It uses a V6 e not a straight 6, right? Has a black W201FTW vanity plate. engine alone. Not needed anyhow. The original 190E engine support brackets must be brought over from the original motor as well as the motor mounts. There are two approaches to getting the wiring completed for this swap. The flywheels and driven plates (for the automatic) have large metal ridges that trigger a sensor for the ignition system. 4 bangers can be quite powerful.. :p, What about suspension and the rearend? Picture time, A few more things for anyone wanting to do the swap. The engine is mated to a Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox using a Sachs Motorsports pressure plate, Tenaci Motorsport 200 mm clutch discs and flywheel. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. It rides on a set of Cosmis Racing XT206R wheels with 189.5-inch in front and 1811-inch in back. Learn how your comment data is processed. __________________. However, The flywheel is going to be a problem for you. both m104 and 2jz handle 1000hp but the price is real big difference. If you want one super clean AND fully sorted it might be closer to $10k. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Haven't taken it to the track yet but I know it has over 220bhp. I saw one real nice one on the web that had a AMG 3.8 in it. Mrten competes in a special 2003 Mercedes CLK we first covered in 2015. How much power can you get out of the 16v? Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. I haven't done much looking into the nitty gritty details myself when it comes to the electrical side of the swap, I just know it's becoming increasingly more prevalent. Was real nice. Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support. Team Lovetap is a Swedish drift team started by driver and fabricator Mrten Stngberg. The turbocharger system consists of a TB90 90 mm turbocharger, 60 mm wastegate, 50 mm blowoff valve, Turbobandit intake, 90 mm throttle body, and stainless exhaust manifold. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums, tongue-in-cheek - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. Learn how your comment data is processed. Will be taking it there soon so I'll post my times. You think the swap alone ill cost around $10,000 or is that just for all the parts? Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. The Mercedes-Benz M104 is a straight-6 automobile engine produced from 1989 through 1999. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL. And if so is there no way around it? It may not display this or other websites correctly. Also depends if you are willing to take on a "mechanic's special" that is cheap because they couldn't figure out what's wrong with it. Also note that the 1992 M119 engine is a KE-Jetronic engine, whereas the M119 as used in the 500E is LH-Jetronic, and the injection as used on the M104 you mentioned is HFM (essentially Motronic). Source: Team Lovetap (project page), Team Lovetap FB page, Auto-Gruppen FB page, and Drifted. The suspension features factory Mercedes subframes with custom front and rear control arms and KW 3-way adjustable coilovers. It barely sticks now when floored. Sweden for a dyno tune. i have the m102 2.0 in the car as is and i have heard that the problem with having the smaller motor rather than the 2.3 or 2.6 is that the steering box will cause a problem when fitting the engine? It may not display this or other websites correctly. Get the full engine harness, the ezl unit, and the ecu. i think you would need to splice int he wiring harness from the 104. it is alot of work if i had to do this i would do a m117 swap. As @a777fan said, there are multiple discussions of these types of engine swaps on the forum. Front of block: 350SDL "Diesel" crank (Now not just limited to L series fun for strokers!) Its a 3.0, 7000rpm limit, and 228hp, 201 lb.ft. For reference: I've owned/own 2 M104 swapped 190Es. To swap a non V8 w124 into LH V8 spec would require the following parts changing: Wouldn't it be fun to have a 500e wagon? I think mine should run 14's no problem at the track. After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. The sedan rides on Yellow Racing coilovers, OZ Future wheels (179,1712), CL600 front brakes, and 300TE rear brakes. Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. Additionally, the high pressure hose is slightly longer and uses a 90 degree bend that is not compatible with a 190E 2.6 A/C condenser. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. Every panel is made from FRP (fiber-reinforced plastic) except for A-pillar, C-pillar, and roof. Seen one in the "legends of the autobahn" car show a couple of years ago in Carmel/Monterey. Mercedes made a ton of upgrades when they put the V8 into the 6-cyl chassis, which is why you can't easily upgrade the E320. JavaScript is disabled. Doesn't the 93 sportline have the switchable differential? You are using an out of date browser. VIN: WDBEA34EXSC224807 FIN: WDB1240341C224807 Engine no. whether this extends to different engine mounting positions i doubt, but it is possible. The motor is mated to a modified 722.634 five-speed automatic transmission with custom 5000 rpm converter, W124 210 mm LSD rear end, and Sportline 300E 32 mm axles. 1990 190E 2.6 oil pressure problem uh-oh! You must log in or register to reply here. This Nissan 350Z was built to drift by Yaroslav Kremets from Nomotors in Kyiv, Ukraine. Once all the wiring is laid out it is pretty simple to figure out. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. Bolt starter to transmission later. I wasn't kidding about a 6-12 month search nationwide. Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, around 60 hours so... Racing adjustable coilovers it is 90 % of a 500E!!!!!!!!!!! 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