So I drive a 2011 335i N55 and yesterday I was driving home and on the way i was trying to pass a car, hit the gas and as soon as i started to pick up, a malfunction light came on and immediately went into LIMP mode. Coul it be timming change or leak some where? Hello did you ever resolve that issue? The car started fine the first time and every time since. No I dont think it is covered,,,and what lifetime of the vehicle are you talking about. I have a X1 E84 with the N20 engine. Thanks! hello i have a 2013 bmw x3 from a family friend with n20 Hi, thank you for the reply. I am thinking switching vanos solenoids and see result. Clean both solenoids and reinstall. Tried to read live camshaft sensors read ista says that currenty no data is sent from them to DME. 133E10 -permanent valvetronic system: deactivated, adjustment fault too frequent or ground from chassis to engine? The oil and filter have always been genuine BMW. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Also camshaft sensors also does not give any data to DME. So for the E89 Z4 only the 28i N20 powered model is affected and not the 20i sDrive? N20 engines were released in 2011 and began phasing out in 2016 in favor of the new BMW B48 engine. I've done exactly the same thing and caused this issue by replacing the timing chain tensioner. also it has a start stall initially. I saw a video where the chap replaced it without the locks and I thought it was an easy DIY. Please help! 120408 Intermittent Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence BMW says I caused engine cease. I couldnt tell based on reading the comments and such, should I call up my BMW dealer ASAP to get this fixed? but after 3-4 minutes these fault codes with a message -Drivetrain problem comes in the display. Thank you, No still would be concern,,,,I dont know if they used a different timing chain guide before 6/2012. Ill check my gas cap but I need to clear this code. You only touched an accessories belt part. Am I free of concern? Earlier this week I took my 2012 328i to dealership because check engine light came on. F30 N20 drivetrain malfunction after timing chain replacement at dealership : BmwTech 2 Posted by 2 years ago F30 N20 drivetrain malfunction after timing chain replacement at dealership Hey guys, I have a 2014 F30 with the N20 motor and the only mods are the dinan stage 3 tune and a dinan fmic. Ok Ill do that. labor operation. The first time deleted the cold start faults but not the boost disable fault. The improved DME software was introduced My mechanic has replaced the timing chain and the broken guides along with all the other stuff that BMW recommends. Brought it to a second mechanic. Location: Chicago. Dont they use the same spec N20 engine just with a slight bump in power for the 28i version? It goes from 0 8 kpa and back to 0 will cranking do you have any idea what that reading should be on the fuel rail. One other odd problem during this time was the oil level test did not work. Now also Im sitting 3 months over then 7/70 mark! The details of the settlement if approved by court will extend timing chain and oil pump drive chain to 8 years/100000 miles(which ever comes first). Did you hear anything like this before? Or turbo charger, Do you guys fix the issue ?! The starter and engine appear to make no attempt to start. check got vanos dtc come to relies i switch the cam gears when i install them so i correct it after veh cranks but no start check timming over like 3 time it good. 176000km is only 110000 miles, that is a shame that such a nice compact power house(N20/N26 that is) can go bust in such young age, BMW really should step up and recall all the affected N20/N26 with defective parts. Please help! Tried test with ista for vanos solenoid test removed solenoid stiff does not move when activated. and if necessary, also and cam shaft are not in alignment any more. Not a good sign, had the same thing happen on 2013 X3. I have a 2013 N20 engine in my X3 and want to remove the actuators to either clean or replace. I manually crank engine over few time but after start it always goes retarded on exhaust cam shaft. I dont know how serious this is,,,but your mechanic is right to remove the valve cover and inspect the timing chain and guide rails,,,,if that is ok the check the exhaust vanos unit and intake vanos units,,,,your faults are for the exhaust side,,,the boost charge fault is due to the exhaust vanos faults. The timing was checked several times after installing the new chain. Hello and thank you for your various articles on the n20 engine. There are locking pins integrated inside the units. diagnosis system checking faults) In US the N20/N26 timing chain extended limited warranty is 7 years/70000 miles, so what is extended coverage available in your country? If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? Having the same. Disregard my question. 2D55 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable Even if the engine is warm it still gives these same fault codes. It is a total mystery (to me) as to why it works now. The BMW N20 is a 4-cylinder, turbocharged engine produced from 2011-2017, and was BMW's replacement for the naturally aspirated 3.0L 6-cylinder N52/N53 engines. Im more concerned with the multiple vanos codes which happened after the fact. Thanks for this. Thank you, Rev match I say problem. Engine The VANOS solenoids were removed/reinstalled several times to check the timing and one time to test the solenoids electrically. Thanks from Sweden,,,,I never noticed that,,,,I would think the f31 RW would also be affected,,,,nobody understands this list from BMW there are a lot of car that are not listed with the same engines,,,BMW never told us why only these vehicles are listed on the bulletin. E84 I have 13 bmw 335i xdrive with a vsrf catless downpipe, afe intake, Remus exhaust, jb4 on map 2 and jb4 connect kit. Thanks for your time. Your really helpful : So how do I know when its time for a update. I took it to the bmw for a diagnostic and they said that Im just better off replacing the engine than trying to find out what is wrong with the car. I was told by a mechanic that the engine was done, simply by information from a scan. Hi greatings from Norway i have also a Bmw 320i GT-xdrive with 97k-km i dont hear any winning on the chain.I dont find in your list f34 320i Gt from 07.2013 that means that is not afected or just is not on the list i called allso BMW-and they said that my car is not on the extendet waranty list.Im verry stresed with this timming chain issue every time when i go on the car i listen to the engine is like ridding a time bomb.I am paning to change the timming chain at 150k-km even if is not making the noise.And whi there so many 328i afected and 320i not does it matter if mine is a xdrive?does the chain is more under load fi the care is x-drive? Checked the Camshaft Journal Caps. E84 and E89: C. Its a possibility that the motor could be saved,,,,but it would take a lot of money and time,,,there has been some people of done their own DIY and fixed the engine depending on what is damaged,,,if it is just the timing chain,rails , oil pump and hopefully the bearing arent bad and no damage to the pistons and valves the repairs might not be that bad,,,,you have to realize you have 176k miles which is a lot.,,,and what about the transmission is that next to fail? Reset codes and adaptations without increment wheel. It has the N26 engine, factory warranty has expired. 2002 M10 4-cylinder from 1962-1988, and N20/N26 has so many attributes to be legendary. Other engines may have this same scenario, but it's not typical. Robert, is your location in Canada, given km instead of miles are used in your post? Nic. This seems correct, but I'm looking to avoid removing the valve cover. To my shame, I am not sure how to post video in your blog. It definitely isnt a prominent/dangerous rattling sound like in the video Jack posted on Aug 30. 1; 120408 Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence Id rather not pay more money. 2D61 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, position not reached SITUATION A service advisor at a reputable independent repair shop was concerned about the brief rattle/stutter (5 second mark) in this video upon ignition. Do you know if the new Vanos assemblies comes with the upgraded bolts or do I still need to change out the 4 Vanos Gear bolts on a new assembly? programming and it fails to program correctly or requires initialization, this additional work must Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get BMW covered on this timing chain issue? Hello, Hi, I recently bought a 2012 X1 xDrive28i. I called the mechanic he said it was a fault related to the emissions. Hello! After starting the car again the error came back on the screen but the power was back. How do I approach the dealer saying I hear a noise and whatnot for them to fix it while it is still under warranty? If BMWNA does not fix this N20/N26 TC issue, a chunk of remaining faithfuls will deflect to other brands. I live in France with an x1 e84 xdrive 20i (end of 2012) which does not seem to be on your list. not have the latest software. Today I drove it 20 miles to several stores and it worked fine. repairs to the engine valve train assembly. Next day scanned and found codes 120208 (charging pressure control, plausibility pressure too high) and 120408 (charging pressure control, deactivation: pressure build-up blocked. Thank You very much for your help. The engine is running rough at idle. Sorry for the confusion, I understand you have the N20 engine,,,,what Im saying on the N20 engine the vans unit failing is not a common problem like the N51,,,,,on the N20 engine there are no replacement bolts for the vanos unit not like the N51. I have 2013 BMW X1 xdrive28i with 79,000 km on it. Just need to clear the check engine light. SUBJECT she said light came on oil pressure error stop immidiatly Hi Hi, I have little complicated problem with F30 N20B20 2012 engine.. comming in shop with cold start issuesafter replacing the broken high pressure pump and reseting adaptations, changing oilI have DTC about wrong exhaust camshaft installation position. 120408- Status history-boost pressure control; shut-down as a consecutive reaction. Dealer wants almost 300 euro to check the timing chain. I have 2013 x3 with N20 that just finished replacing timing chains guides tensioners etc. I assume it will need to be replaced just because its higher in milage but do you think BMW would warranty it out knowing that theyve said it was lifetime of the vehicle? You could replace the tensioner if you like,,,you should be ok since your car was probably built in 2015.,,,,you could ask your local dealership on what they think about your car and the timing chain issue. 00 00 006 Refer to KSD2 Performing vehicle test (with vehicle Its hard to say what the problem might be,,,but with the timing chain issue on that engine,,,I would look into that and maybe the exhaust vanos unit? 130108 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ASE and BMW Master Certified Technician 09-28-2017, 07:33 PM #6 Ramos8553 Member Join Date Sep 2017 Thanks for any input. I am not sure if it was the wrong filter. The production date of the car was 2015-11-17. 61 21 528 Refer to KSD2 Charging battery However I did pay out of pocket to replace by valve cover gasket at a BMW dealership 2 years ago. If you are using a Main labor code for 2D56 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Position not reached I would just pay attention to any abnormal whine noise,,,,there is no maintenance on the timing chain. What are related problems? Was it coincidental and maybe the bits of trash in the both VANOS spool valves cleared at the exact same time? I would love to listen to your video,,,please send it. Refer to KSD2 for the corresponding flat rate unit (FRU) allowance. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. It was somewhat cold today around 20 degrees. Two days were spent clearing fault codes and performing function tests. Yesterday when i was driving the car normally on the hwy the drivetrain malfunction popped up and car went into a reduced power mode. Page 4 of 4 5%? Apr 14, 2022 BMW F30 328i 2013 N20 engine "Drivetrain malfunction etc" comes on occasionally. I got a few drivetrain malfunctions last week: 131501 vanos, intake, cold start; not adjustable 120408 reduced power mode. Today my engine shut off while I was driving. Defect Code: 11 36 01 96 00 another repair, use the Plus code labor operation 00 00 556 instead. The only odd result is that the desired angles of 0 and 0.6 had actual angles that were off by ~8 degrees. 120308 charge air pressure 130E20 Jake 6,848 satisfied customers I replaced my timing chain and oil chain on my 2012 BMW carlosbosch satisfied customers Daniel Or maybe the fuel that would be implicated! It started during a hot day waiting at a traffic light. One or more of the following faults is stored in the 130108 VANOS, intake, control fault, position not reached Here is a video of whats happening today. with the following integration levels: my mechanic had replaced the both the vanos solonoids and cleared the faults. Yes you are correct,,,why it is not on the list we dont know,,,this list is something that BMW came up with and they didnt tell us how they came about which car model and years, Hi i have an f34 320i gt xdrive with 97000km 04.07.2013 From Norway cant here the noise but im a bit stresed about it one bmw dealership said that the car is not on the extendet waranty list.Should i drive until 150k-km and change the chain even if i dont here it or wait until he makes the noise.If is x-drive does it get used faster then Rw.And why so many 328I afected and not so many 320i? I am troubleshooting an issue with it already for weeks now and unfortunately I was not able to find the root cause yet. E84 and E89: Some people say it could be related to timing chain but when I check the timing chain with a cold engine by hand it does not move. You referenced this TSB in your comment to Ronnie back in 2017. Thank You very much for the reply !! F25 So your car software level is July of 2019,,,,this is when it was last updated,,,so your car has fairly new software. 131401 vanos exhaust cold start not controllable https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 Ok the charge boost pressure fault is related to the vanos faults,,,,the vanos faults could be a couple of things but since you just replaced the timing chain maybe the timing is not correct on the intake vanos unit? BMW INTAKE VANOS ACTUATOR SOLENOID LOCATION REPLACEMENT EXPLAINED F30 F31 F32 F33 F34 428i 328i 320i 420i 418i 318i 316iIf you are trying to find where the i. Hey, Rather it is no cost extended warranty in Canada. As many have said before, thank you for your very valuable insights and information. 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable 131808 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Position not reached . I have a N20 Engine/ 328i April 2013 / F30, the dash states drivetrain malfunction and the check engine light went on. Four months later I got a drive train malfunction that turned on then went away after a day. The crank pin to hold at TDC goes through the tiny hole pointing to the rear of the car by the catalytic converter, the only thing this would be able to hold onto would be the flex plate/flywheel. 120408: Boost pressure control, cut off pressure rise blocked. The update can only be done at the dealer,,,you will only need a update if there is some kind of BMW recall on software or if at anytime your car might need some other repair which might call for a update for the repairs.,,,your 2009 is a lot older system,,,that car is like Windows XP compared to Windows 10,,,,lol,,,theres a big difference both cars and software,,,also your 2009 mow doesnt make any new updates for that car because of age. The Service Engine Soon lamp and Engine Malfunction warning are illuminated, and the vehicle Ive got a 2014 320i with 36,000 miles. The I-level is newer than the I-level specified in SI B12 15 13. Cheers, Also, I had the whole transmission replaced at 42K miles when I bought it. My engine shut of while idle in park. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: Labor: 1.0. Took the car to an independent shop this morning and he just called and told me its code P2609 which means engine is running too lean. So temperatures make difference. thanks, You might want to look at the timing chain on a N20,,,that can cause a lot of different problem, Your email address will not be published. 2008 BMW 128I [0.00] Check engine light DTC 131501. Do not replace any parts. Thanks you! to performing repairs, please see SI B01 02 11 for Emissions Warranty Coverage and refer to the If performing other ISTA diagnostics and related test plans results with eligible and covered E84 and E89 Note: When the ISTA system message displays: Battery voltage only XX.XX V. Please connect When retrieving BMW check engine light codes with an OBD II scan tool, proceed as follows: 1. It has never been in an accident and the body is in excellent shape. Maybe not as loud as before but still noisy. They unlock only when oil pressure is applied. which consists of the last 7 digits of the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). I have the alignment tool to lock the crankshaft, camshafts and impulse sending wheel. Whether the engine is cold or warm, the VANOS faults appear within 15 seconds of startup. Yes took off the valve cover 3 times so far. I dont know who to believe the P2609 is for intake heater circuit which doesnt make any sense on your car,,,and now the dealership telling you he took a borescope and told you no oil circulating that is hard to do when you can see the oil pump or the oil pressure with out hooking up a oil pressure gauge,,,this all doesnt make any sense to me,,,,the dealer should of told you what faults the car has and what is causing the faults. everything in the vehicle works extremely well. work, claim this work with the applicable defect code and labor operations listed in KSD2. Intake Camshaft: Installation faulty. also by any chance would you know the torque specs for this bolts? The extended warranty runs out in December. Hopefully it will prove to be a non issue. E89X-13 -11-505 for the E84 and E89 After several engine stop/start cycles there were still no faults. Perform a vehicle test. 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