I'm willing to wait for a $300-400 difference in price. For a 7.62 NATO rifle I think I will always suggest a FAL, although being in MA this may be more challenging. Never another problem. But then I started looking at IWIs other weapons and to tell the truth I saw the Galil in 308, read some great reviews about it and I think its a pretty cool gun. Update 2.28.19. Please remember that the TAVOR is an assault rifle designed for combat use. - I know the T7 is not the most accurate rifle, since it's a battle rifle and not a precision rifle. Around 1.5 MOA would be acceptable for a battle rifle. Drills quickly moved past stand-and-deliver drills to more dynamic drills involving movement, magazine reloads and firing from behind cover. When you say riding super deep what do you mean? Mine runs fantastic.My favorite .308 rifle. If you charge the weapon with safety off then put the gun in safe mode and it still charges all is well with the world. The chassis shell of the rifle is made of composite-polymer materials and available in color options of Black, OD Green and Flat Dark Earth. Other thought could be a short throated rifle causing high pressures. This review was not a very good one. @Manticore_Arms got an ETA on the T7 buttpads yet? The story was listed as breaking news on a series of major Israeli news outlets including Israel Hayom. The T7s trigger feels like an old roller delayed H&K trigger, like the G3 and MP5, its a trigger you have to roll through. Just figure 7.62 would be fun to have as well and was just wondering what you all think of them. This is obviously a massive problem in Israel where blowing fine dust and sand are not considered extreme conditions but the norm. I started to buy one when they first came out, but decided to wait til they came down in price. So.. You can post now and register later. A combination of factors makes the Tavor 7 bullpup seem lighter and handier than its 9 lbs. I was considering the Tavor-7 after it was first announced, but then with the accuracy problems I kind of lost interest. One of the few complaints about the Tavor SAR is the trigger. Here's what I roughly observed: Try doing a complete tear down. Shitty whatever the cause hope it gets resolved soon and pain free on your part. go with an AR10, Am still waiting for them to come out with a 20inch barrel tavor7, stupid massachuset awb,let hope our governor and ag catch corona flu and die. go for it. I've been enamored with the Tavor since it made it stateside in 2013. Ill say my chamber looks a lot shinier than yours. Could it be the oil film stuff they use for rust prevention making the cases stick? I did ask my dealer about pricing. The minimal addition to overall length means you can consider leaving the CZ Ti Reflex suppressor attached for multiple scenarios. Good luck, OP. I was fully warmed up to shooting all 3 and not fatiguing yet. I might go for the TS-12, as "shotgun like" accuracy is expected. Percival Armaments makes improvements to the tactical shooting experience of the Tavor and X95 with the redesign of the 9mm Shell Deflector.. I have 3 other 308 battle rifles and the Tavor is my favorite to shoot right there with my Scar 17. Ammunition is M80 Ball, Federal. It is equipped with mil standard 1913 Picatinny rails on all sides allowing 100% compatibility with any available sights and/or accessories. For more information on the IWI Tavor 7, visit iwi.us. The new valve is placed inside the diseased valve. Mine runs great. CALIBER: 7.62NATOBARREL: 16.5" chrome-line hammer-forged CrMoV 1:12" right-hand twist.LENGTH: 26.75"WEIGHT: 9" emptySIGHTS: None, Picatinny rail for mounting of aftermarket sights.ACTION: Semi-automaticCAPACITY: 10, 20, or 25 round detachable magazine compatible.MSRP: $2,099. Smoother and more subtle are two descriptions that come to mind. The triggers found on bullpups are not as crisp as other designs due to the linkage required between the trigger shoe and trigger pack. One of the biggest changes is the new relocated magazine release. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The 16.5" barrel of the IWI Tavor 7 with CZ USA Ti Reflex suppressor attached. Also, has been 100% reliable thru 500 rounds. Several magazines worth of ammunition was spent engaging plate racks and man-sized steel targets. I have always liked the bullpup design. Decades of experience with handguns and holsters have given the author some excellent insights into the most popular designs. 3 shots vs 5 shots vs 10. JavaScript is disabled. What calibers and magazine types do you currently have? This is intended for very discrete use/application. Once I got every bit out of every nook and cranny, I spray soaked the gun with Remoil lubricant and ran wet a few times. I know its not a MDR, but in some cases where people where getting torn rims, reducing the gas helped. Pasted as rich text. Also have sutefire duel fuel light on it. TAVOR 7 FEATURES: Short-stroke gas piston Right around 2moa on mine. The choice of a bullpup design was a necessity to retain the accuracy and terminal performance of a longer barrel while reducing overall length. The new X95has a 4-6lb trigger. The merits of a .308 bullpup, to me, are even less than with a 5.56. Henry Repeating Arms recently presented a $25,000 check a nonprofit organization that provides support and programs for the families and co-workers of firefighters killed in the line of duty. This 13 inch barrel in the tiniest package you can imagine is a flat accurate long distance shooter capable of laying down an in incredibly high rate of fire. Powered by Invision Community. If you charge the weapon in fire mode, then put the safety on and the charging handle wont operate there IS an issue. Testing criteria: Comparative grouping on 3 platforms to establish standards and information on the Tavor 7 using a 3x10rd format. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I have a Scar 17 and Tavor 7. 3 groups per rifle average around where we wanted it shooting off a lead sled , 168gr Gold Medal Match . Nope, ain't doin it. I looked at my chamber again todayand its nice and shinythe OPs seems very dull For what it's worth I liked my T7 before it started messing up, definitely my favorite 308 too. jraysig said: If you're not a fan what suggestions do you have? A closer look at the CZ USA Ti Reflex suppressor mounted to the IWI Tavor 7. A bad shot saying "My _____ gets 5moa!" JavaScript is disabled. Here, he explains their advantages and disadvantagesand how to use them safely. The Tavor 7s recoil impulse is decidedly different in a positive way. A soldier working on adrenaline won't even notice the trigger. The largest contributing factor to this accuracy, in my opinion, is the trigger. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. It has a hammer-forged, chrome-lined and free-floating barrel, with four RH grooves with a 1:12" right hand rifling twist. Overall quality, everywhere, is becoming more and more questionable (while prices and profits continue to rise). This was what I was hoping to hear. At times it is still being rough on brass, I shot Lake City, Magtech, and ZQI ammo and they all were affected. One of the main reasons I didn't bite the bullet and purchase. Perhaps it will still function in the suppressed setting. You are using an out of date browser. In the Off setting, the action will not cycle when the shot is fired. The special curved shape reduces the length of pull while keeping the overall length of the weapon the same as with the existing buttpad, which means that the gun stays just over 26" and there are no NFA issues. Friday morning, as I was mentally preparing myself for my vasectomy (at 12:30 that afternoon), I got a text from my pusher. I know it's "Mini-14" accurate. Just buy the X95 or Tavor version that is set up for 5.56 and forget about conversion kits for this idea. This is impossible as the charging handle will not operate when the safety is engaged. In the manual it says that you should be able to load and charge when the safety is on. I like mine alot. Its never going to beat the M110 or SCAR, those rifles both have mechanical advantages that lend accuracy the Tavor cant match as a bullpup and in how the system itself is put together and serviced. Local pusher says Tavor 7s are allocated through all his distributors. According to the paperwork IWI polished the chamber, extractor, replaced bolt, checked headspace, and test fired 60 rounds of Stillwood 147gr. All told, you're jamming up to 15 shells into a shotgun with an 18-inch barrel that has a factory overall length of just over 28 inches. Its built like a tank and is a delight to shoot. Tavor 7 & Baffle Strikes: searching for insight, ITT you can laugh at me, Talk to me about gassing and buffering LR-308. Filter products to compare by specs and price. I was considering the Tavor-7 after it was first announced, but then with the accuracy problems I kind of lost interest. His opinion of all "gas guns" is negative -- he turned his nose up at a LaRue that came through his store. The trigger of the X95 has also been upgraded. Just checked my junk mail yesterday, and they sent me an e-mail on March 5 saying they had some in stock. - Heavy, meh. Charging handle slots are on both sides, so the handle can be installed on either side of the weapon per user preference. Access to the action is through the use of a hinged buttplate. One must ask why Israel decided to invest the time and effort to develop the Tavor series of bullpup rifles, especially considering they were being gifted M16s from the U.S. as part of generous aid packages? This rifle i believe is not meant for long range shooting and is a CQB rifle at which i believe it would excel. Not looking for precision weapon accuracy from it as thats not what its designed for. The ambidextrous safety-selector type on the Tavor 7 resembles an ARs location behind the trigger. IWI Tavor x95 Micro with Steve Fisher and Tom Alibrando. NES/MFS February Giveaway ***Taurus G3***, from central vietnam.live in central massachusset. I picked it up from a buddy for $1600 with the trigger upgraded already. . 599 talking about this. A really aggressive brushing might fix it. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Sounds like a phone call to IWI is in order. Once aftermarket 2-Stage triggers for the T7 become a reality we can see the accuracy gap close further. Haven't heard anything from RSR or Sports South. Even though I don't really understand what you just said, the pictures speak a thousand words. You are using an out of date browser. We took 3 rifles out for endurance testing. The British emphasis was to find one platform to replace multiple patterns of submachine guns and battle rifles. If so does anyone know of any fixes? Last week a number of Israeli news outlets reported that the Israeli Defense Forces had made the decision to replace the Tavor bullpup rifle in service with the M4 Carbine. At the same time (and unbeknownst to each other), his wife purchased a 9mm conversion kit for his 5.56 SAR. Guess it depends upon how many rounds in your group. But I think it'd still be a hell of a lot of fun, especially with a can on. Course of fire: From prone, supported, fire a 10rd group into the designated box. Firing thousands of rounds over two years, this IWI Tavor SAR, tricked out for the author's needs, has proven itself to be reliable, accurate and extremely versatile.Shown equipped with a Bushnell ET 1-6.5X SMRS optic. The TAVOR is a great weapon. The trigger on both the other rifles in the test are 2-Stage triggers meant for very predictable and accurate breaks, something infinitely easier to accomplish in a standard trigger group without a long transfer bar. One should not try to stage the trigger, but rather work it smoothly like a double-action revolver trigger. Right? So he's got every iteration of the SAR covered. If you charge the weapon in fire mode then pull the trigger then go to safe mode and try to charge and it doesnt this is normal as its a .308 and theres a lot of force to overcome. Optics: Each rifle was wearing a different class of optic but all were shot at 4x to match the SCARs TA31 ECOS. I Adore the IWI Tavor and like I say in this video it's one. All 9 groups plus a quick string of 3 headshots I did to confirm zero. Sadly, when it's fixed you will likely find the gun cycles noticeably harder, now that it's not dragging the brass out over sand paper (at least, that's how it was with my R51 once I fixed the shit chamber Remington had cut). The tide seems to be changing in terms of bullpup acceptability and availability. The TAVOR 7 - The difference between 5.56 and 7.62 is blurry Due to the fight against terrorism, the contemporary battlefield places a higher priority on urban combat than open-air combat. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. check out the. but they have held steady on price. My Tavor 7 pistol grip is now very grippy! It may be causing your bolt/carrier to slightly bind up with the chamber lugs a bit as well as the empty casings to get stuck in the chamber. I have tried with a mag in and it made no difference. I should probably talk to SWMBO about this. Not enough to drop the money on the upgraded triggers. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. A Vortex Razor HD Gen III 1-10x24 mm FFP scope was mounted on the Tavor 7. For example gas to the eye problem is fixed with $30 plate in 5 min. Filter Categories. I'm not tied to a 308. "Yeah, they had a few show up at Davidson's 2 weeks ago and they were allocated in under 10 minutes. It is stuck in the forward position, can not be moved back. What exactly is it failing to do? Just for giggle try placing the gas setting to the suppressor setting. The X95 is an updated version of the Tavor SAR. Obviously, this can be a bad thing when hunting. [TL:DR Version Its accurate and will have an effective range on man sized and medium game targets out to 600 yards or so. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Everything I am testing is when disarmed, cleared and no magazine or ammo involved. Display as a link instead, Part of the popularity of the Tavor is that it is issued and tested by the IDF. If those were out of an AR-10, first thought would be over gassed. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Anyone free float their Tavor barrel and see if the accuracy improves? I make road-trips with bail money. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. The bottom of the Tavor 7's fore-end has a Picatinny rail hidden beneath removal. Right? The Tavor 7 is fed by SR-25 pattern magazines. Sports South had one Tavor 7 in FDE, and he wanted to know if I wanted it. Shooter fatigue is real, anyone who has shot a slow repetitive test like this will understand. 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