Nice gun, but many of Kahr owners go to the Pico and never look back. I appreciate the review. So now I have a paperweight in the shape of a gun ! It shoots a powerful pistol cartridge in a light gun. Also, I dont consider the CPX-2 to be a pocket pistol, nor should it be compared to some of the little single stack fluff-pieces the articles author referenced. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. Sorry, with all due respect to Mr Henson, I wish you the best of luck, and while I see how this might help some buyers sort from the thousands of gun models, its only a start. I have 100s of rounds through both my kahrs with zero fails. Personally, Id avoid far more than just the bottom six. IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. anyone can vote on any gun whether they own or have even seen the gun in person. It is not a pleasant gun to shoot, but a helluva lot worse on the receiving end. His comment about the mag release tell xme his knowledge of the Beretta Pico is limited to picking one up at the most. Encountered types on the old KT forums that whines like a little girl. But hey, thanks for calling regulars to this site a-holes. What a joke. No issue with it. ******SPONSORED CONTENT/PRODUCT PLACEMENT******. The LCP isnt that bad. It pains me to include the DB380 on this list because I bought one acouple years ago. and wrote the entire line off. No aluminum. Got the Hellcat thrown in when I bought another gun. Bodyguard were well rated. I think it would have to be the 2mm Kolibri. Its the worlds smallest handgun, and develops just 4 joules of muzzle energy. Its not a joke weapon Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. But unlike those highly rated guns, the Hellcat IIs rating is in the toilet. The Pico will eat any ammo I have fed it, and has proven flawless with thousands of rounds down range. The only guns to get near a 100 votes are the Beretta and the SCCY. And I have not shot one better then these in the same weight and AOL class. Five for sure and nobody can show otherwise. . So, pocket guns being inherently hard to shoot and prone to limp wristing will experience failures. Note to self, Get to the range! After each guns name, youll see its average user rating, that ratings margin of error and the number of votes: 1) Diamondback Firearms DB380 (4.3 stars 1.0, 25 votes). Mine works, has worked, continues to work, and has never not gone bang. Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. No issues to complain about. Great sights, ability to change out to night sights and on and on. WebBeretta Pico: Worst .380 In the World?! They were remarkably accurate and soft-shooting, too. Otherwise a worthy imitator of the abandoned Walther PPK. Like a great car or movie, a great firearm can become a true classic. Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. We even joked that we needed to start a Pocket Gun Palma match. Bought it brand new. I owned a SCCY CPX-2 (notice the past tense). Also LCP. All you did is look at numerical reviews on the internet. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. Do they now have 12 round mags? Not sure why the Sccy is on this list, I own a cpx2 and its great! To send it back would cost to much and the internet dealer would not stand behind it !! Oh, it fits my hand great too. Bersa Thunder 5. Thats a lot! Simple, easy and the Beretta Pico is in fact one of the most mild shooting Pocket Pistols out there. +1 Mag Extensions are the only change to it. That gun, the TCP, gets pretty good marks everywhere Ive seen it reviewed, so I wouldnt expect it to show up on a pocket guns to avoid list. Theres room for disagreement, but probably only because some peoples pockets are bigger and can hold bigger guns. Probably ran 150 round through it so far. For 2022, the Roughneck will be available in a recoil-friendly .380 ACP. The trigger seem to be the trouble people have with it. Ed Brown alpha elite: 3.2. At 10.2 ounces, the trim Taurus 738 is a very light pistol, and with an overall length of just 5.25 inches its easy to conceal even under light This article was total BS. Regardless of your take on user ratings, I think you can safely ignore the bottom six guns and not worry about missing out on much. You can read about well known problems on reddit, Amazon, etc, for ranknings and customer ratings abuse. I bought a SCCY CPX-2 a few months ago . I would bet my life on this smallish, nice looking pistol. I really get the feeling you know little about the Pico. Wanted to check to see if my comments really apply to your site, and it looks like your server is in melt-down. If one MUST have a 9mm pocket gun, then the Kahr PM9/CM9 is really the only choice. There are many different 380 pistol options, but our favorites include the following: Ruger LCP II, Walther PK380, Kel-tec P3AT, Taurus Spectrum, and M&P Shield EZ. The Sccy gets a 4.3 rating and it stinks? The small NAA revolvers make a good back up weapon, I own three of the little guns. I think by nature all auto pocket pistols suck. More power to him I say. Ive got a CPX-2 and a Hellcat. And with gloves on, even the skin tight shooting gloves, it was impossible to get the trigger to reset without removing my finger from the trigger guard completely, or using my support hand to manually push it forward far enough to reset. Take the guns in this article, for example: did people downvote them because they were too uncomfortable to fire? Well, Taurus only makes one gun that really meets the pocket pistol criteria set forth in the article. Also people need to fire them at the range. If you are going to run a wisdom of crowds review site I think you really ought to take a note from them, because we ALL know the crowd can also be incredibly stupid, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard. The CW380 sucks. Trash. I just hated the trigger. All I know is my 1st CPX-2 had to be sent in for service 30 minutes after I got it home. I am a Pocket gun enthusiast. The trigger is long and weighty but smooth. And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. The gun design has never worked well . On that note, you KNOW were kind of spoiled with all the great pocket guns available today. TTAG is the Roseanne Barr of reviews. Unless you can document that, I think you are off base posting what is basically a rumor. Its been reliable since then for me. Remember, these are life-or-death guns, not gopher guns or race guns. When I told him I never have a problem with my P-11 or my wifes Ruger SR-9, he then said maybe its the ammo. It feels good in the hand and the materials and workmanship are fine. Mild. You can get these on line at times for Most people who love the P3-AT just carry it but dont use it. 4) Beretta Pico(4.1 stars 0.3, 134 votes), Color me shockedto see the Pico down here with the bottom feeders because Beretta is a major manufacturer that produces lots of quality firearms. check the ammo?? Never had a malfunction, easy to shoot, accurate, and good looking whats not to like? Kahr CW 380. It is not made for quick magazine changes. I also feel the cw380 has very minimal recoil vs other small 380s in its same size. BATTLE OF THE RUGER .380S: LCP VS. LCP II. I have had my CPX 2 and have shot many hundreds of rounds through it, no jams, no misfires, not really impressed with the rear sites, so I put a laser on it and it is accurate, I like not having a safety on it, but with 9 pounds of trigger pressure you do not need a safety. Im in the habit of buying less costly weapons and fully expect to tinker a bit with them to produce a smooth running hot brass pile maker. But with 99 votes in, the math is clear: the CPX-2 stinks. My SCCY runs like a champ. All semi auto weapons will jam at one time or another, and dont feel the same in everyones hand.. I just dont see the silent u in that. These arent big enough vote pools anyway. I use the site SlickGuns a lot to shop for deals and they ran into the same problem with upvotes and downvotes people vote something down just because they wouldnt personally buy it makes no difference if it is a good deal, good product, etc. M&P Shield EZ .380 6. If you have to rely on Counter Clerks for advice on firearms tells me quite a bit. But I have no interest in any Keltec pistol-unlike several rifles. Wecantdislike shooting it so much that well never practice with it. I happen to own a SCCY and have never ever had a FTF or FTE its a very light and compact gun in a 9mm platform with 11 rounds No problem for me but then I have fired well over 100,000 rounds in 50 years. they gladly took it back and said the Cobra .380 was selling like hotcakes. I am surprised high point 380 & 9mm werent included in your list. I own some pretty toys and more expensive carry guns but for everyday carry i choose between my CPX 2 and S&W 442 and feel just as confident with either. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). Every gun has its limitations and knowledge goes a long way to ensure a positive outcome when it happens. But again, the people have spoken: the Pico sucks. Literally, it is.) That thing is a freaking beast of a gun in terms of durability (yes, I have seen torture tests of it). Have you put more than a box through it? Their Reviewers have alot of feed issues due to lack of knowledge of proper grip. I dont know the story behind why but we can only guess. Its a sharp designed pistol with a great price . The Pico is top shelf. He says it is a blunder. Booth #72617 Cabot Guns This is NOT a target gun. I have not had to use them as my SCCY has functioned perfectly so far. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. I dont care for the finger grooves, the chunky feel, or the bullets rattling in the magazine when they arent stacked just right. My dad bought a CPX-whichever has the safety about a month ago; Ill have to ask him what he thinks of it next time we talk. And worst and I do mean worst of all is the Magazine release, which might be the most poorly placed, poorly designed and impossible mag release on any gun ive ever handled. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . Personally have no experience with them but it is to each his own and have heard nothing but good about these pistols. None. Or had a bad exp. There is nothing copyrightable in those designs. It jammed after the first shot, but he hit the intruder in the chest. I sell guns and have ZERO hesitation about selling someone a CPX-2 for everyday carry. I have seen this kind of nonsense before but did not expect to see it here. Yea, guns like Diamondback, Jiminez, Lorcen, High Point and so forth have always had poor reputations, but guns like SCCY and the now Springfield Armory XD were initially poo pooed but turn out to be good guns ONE STAR FOR YOU! kind of reviews. Did he shoot various ammo or run them for accuracy. Far better than any of the others gun you talk about on this rag of a story. Ill definitely be checking it out. Im generally a fan of .40, though it does have a bit of a signature snap. The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. At first glance, Japans first semi-automatic pistol design resembles the iconic So they added in where if you downvote something you must list at least one reason why. As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. How many times do you change magazines in a self defense situation? TTAG has some of the worst reviewers in history. There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. Recoil was worse on the 380 than the 9. Its easy to see why: .380 pistols are typically small enough to carry in the pocket, they are unquestionably smaller and lighter than competing 9mm single stack autos or .38 snubnose revolvers. How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? Its almost like clockwork, at about the 5th round itll turn the shell sideways then the returning bolt will grab it. And a PPK has the solid feel of pure quality. But, in real life event, the trigger want matter. Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. The sccy is very similar. Personally, Id like to see something a little more scientific than a survey since we have no idea if the respondents even handled the firearm. Nonetheless, it still suffers from many of the issues that we just talked about in the previous section: the trigger pull is awful, they are difficult to shoot, it can be difficult to get a good grip on the pistol for some shooters, and the slide wont even lock back on the last round fired. Thats when I could get them to respond to my emails, that is. I give them a failing grade because neither gun reliably goes bang each time you pull the trigger on factory ammo. One of the finest pocket guns out there. What utter nonsense! Do you really know anything about pocket guns? Did anybody take the poor performing guns to a reputable gunsmith and have them tuned up? Go to some of the forums and you will seem many post and pictures from fans. SuccySuckeySuckySucySukyNope. Or having the mag cleaned and inspected? http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg. The SCCY has one of the best rating out of these guns on your post. By the way John, I have the Kahr, yes nice gun.Shoots well. I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. The Ring of Fire guns are small, super Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. Personally, I only go by in person reviews, in this internet age, from people proven trustworthy. Shoot to make the thug dead. But this article should be called Articles to avoid like the Plague. You have not spoken to anyone that has something positive to say about the Pico? I just went through your site and clicked a one star on every gun over $500 and a 10 star on every gun under $500 with my only basis being I dont currently have an expendable $500 in my pocket and I dont like them because they are out of my budget Just kidding, I didnt, but anyone out there could do it, which is why I think your system is incredibly flawed by not at least holding reviewers to having to list a reason. 6. Ruger LCP II 3. SIG P238 Why Use a .380 Pistol? I was thinking the same thing as I read this article. The serrations on the LCP are also wider in order to get a better grip in slippery conditions when racking the slide. Its definitely not perfect but it is far from the worst gun Ive owned. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. Stainless steel throughout the gun. How about some info on some of the pocket pistols that may be considered the best? Ive had one for 5 years with no more problems than a Kel-tech 380, and Ruger LCP I compared side by side at the range. Safe, small, and gives me some measure of security I wouldnt have without it. I. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The trigger is exactly like a double action revolver. She has had limp wrist cycling problems with other semi-auto pistols in the past. For ranknings and customer ratings abuse site, and it stinks shoot various ammo run. 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